Sunday, September 26
For some strange reason I feel like typing so I thought I would put my typing to good use. I am sitting in the computer chair with my legs up on the dest and the keyboard in my lab. I know I am weird, bu tthink it is more comfortable. Anyways, I have already posted twice tonight but I just am posting agian. I am not really sure what I should write about though. It is reather odd, ever since I have gotten a blog I have read the blogs of others less. In fact I very rarely read any of the blogs. I just find it hard enough to keep up my own blog. Plus, when you start posting on other people's blogs you an't stop, it is adictive. Because you HAVE to know what people said in response to you post.
I am thinking about starting a theological debate. But I am not sure what to start it on. in fact all I think about right now is the baked potatoe that I just made myself. That is not very theological.
What do you guys think about this statement: "God does not love everyone. God loves those whom He elected before the beginning of time. "
Now it is your turn to talk. Tell me what you think. Post verses on your opinion. Make your vioce heard.
I am thinking about starting a theological debate. But I am not sure what to start it on. in fact all I think about right now is the baked potatoe that I just made myself. That is not very theological.
What do you guys think about this statement: "God does not love everyone. God loves those whom He elected before the beginning of time. "
Now it is your turn to talk. Tell me what you think. Post verses on your opinion. Make your vioce heard.
12 Comments:
I don't have a verse immediately in mind for the second part of the statement, but here's something from Psalm 5 supporting the first part:
"GOD abhors the man who loves/Deed of blood or lying thought."
There is a sense in which God loves everyone in the whole world (John 3:16; 1John 2:2; Rom 5:8). This love in not conditional – it is based only on the fact that God is a God of love (1John 4:8,16). God’s love for all of mankind results in the fact that God shows His mercy by not immediately punishing people for their sins (Rom 3:23; 6:23). If God did not love everyone, we would all be in hell right now. God’s love for the world is manifested in the fact that He gives people the opportunity to repent (2Pet 3:9). However, God’s love for the world does not mean that He will ignore sin. God is also a God of justice (2Thess 1:6). Sin cannot go unpunished forever (Rom 3:25-26). The most loving act of eternity is described in Romans 5:8, “But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Anyone who ignores God’s love, who rejects Christ as Savior, who denies the Savior who bought him (2Pet 2:1) – that person will be subject to God’s wrath for eternity (Rom 1:18) not His love (Rom 6:23). God loves everyone unconditionally in that He shows mercy to everyone. God conditionally loves only those who place their faith in His Son for salvation (John 3:36). Only those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will experience God’s love for eternity.
What about the scriptures where God says He s certain people? Or where entire citites are destroyed?
It is too bad we have such a limited choice of words for the word love.
Mrs. Long
God isn't just one-sided. Another component of God's love is that He is also a just God (as Brad mentioned.) Whoever God loves, he punishes. That is how we can tell if we are really children of God or not. While God is love, He cannot ignore sin because that would be contradicting Himself (see the verse that Nathaniel posted above.)
I would venture to say that God can both love and hate at the same time. God is not like us, who can only do one or the other to a person. God can hate the sinner and the sin in a holy way, and yet still be willing to lovingly forgive when the person repents. Mysterious as it is to us, God can love a redeemable person, and yet still hate them for their sin. Depending on if they accept or reject His love, will depend their fate for eternity.
Mrs. Long: Weren't the cities destroyed due to the downfall and sin in those cities? Wouldn't that be an example of God's justice?
The word I was trying to post was h.ate. Esau wasn't even born before he was h.ated.
The point is... Is God loving a city when He destroys it?
Mrs. Long
Perhaps the removal of the city shows God's love for the rest of the world?
God soesn't destroy evil purely to show love to the ones who are spared. There has to be justice... therefore Satan still roams. But back to the original question. Are there people God h.ates? God has all emotions in righteousness. Is there righteous hatred? There must be. Look at the Psalms.... the children are dashed against the rocks.
Mrs. Long
Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
I think I agree with Mrs. Long on this one. Why did God destroy those nations? Wasn't it because they were sinning against him and he punished them?
I never said he didn't....
God practically destroyed Israel, yet he loved them, heck they were his chosen people. i think God loves ever person he has created, why create them if he didnt love them?
Peace
Ethan
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